Tuesday, September 30, 2003

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Equipment on P8's "Freedom Plus?"

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Equipment on P8's "Freedom Plus?": "Equipment on P8's 'Freedom Plus?'
I'm slowly dipping my toes into VoIP, and I signed up for P8's Freedom Plus plan, basically because it was the cheapest. Do they still send a Cisco ATA with it? I ask because the carrier says 'digital download,' so I'm wondering if I have to bring my own.

If they don't send an ATA on the cheep-o one, can I e-mail customer service, ask to change to the $20 plan and then have them send a box over?"

Big Shoe Drops: California Jumps on Regulation Bandwagon :: Voxilla.com :: A user's guide to the communications revolution

Big Shoe Drops: California Jumps on Regulation Bandwagon :: Voxilla.com :: A user's guide to the communications revolution: "California's Public Utilities Commission has jumped on the bandwagon to regulate Voice over IP companies.
VoicePulse CEO Ravi Sakaria has received a letter from John Leutza, Director of the California PUC's Telecommunications Division, demanding that the company 'file an application with the Commission for authority to conduct business as a telecommunications utility no later than October 22, 2003.'
According to Richard Fish, a Senior Utilities Engineer with the California PUC, five companies have been sent the letter. Besides VoicePulse, the others are Net2Phone, Packet8, SBC Communications and Vonage.
California's action comes on the heel of similar activity against VoIP providers in a number of other states, most recently Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Leutza's letter asserts the CPUC is taking action based 'on our monitoring of the telecommunications market and actions being taken by other state regulatory commissions.'
The letter cites four different sections of the California Public Utilities Code in making its demand:
'Section 234 of the California Public Utilities Code defines a telephone corporation as every corporation or person who owns, controls, or manages a telephone line for profit. Section 233 defines a telephone line as any asset used to facilitate telephone communication. Section 216 states that any telephone corporation that performs compensated service to any portion of the California public is a public utility. Section 2001 requires that a telephone corporation must first be certificated by the Commission to place a telephone line into service.'
According to Sakaria, this is the first letter his company has"

Inc.com | Internet Phone Service is Here

Inc.com | Internet Phone Service is Here: "The strongest competitor for Vonage on a feature-for-feature basis is Packet8 from 8X8, a California company that makes most of its money in the videoconferencing business. Packet8 does pretty much what Vonage does, but Packet8 just dropped its price for unlimited domestic calling to $19.95 per month. Can you say 'price war'?
Of course, this is an emerging nightmare for local and long-distance phone companies. Some of them are responding with their own unlimited calling plans, but they aren't quite so full-featured as Vonage's or Packet8's. You can't take your phone with you, for example."

Byte and Switch - The Global Site For Storage Networking

Byte and Switch - The Global Site For Storage Networking: "'The SIP Revolution' also identifies the service providers testing the waters and building businesses based on SIP, in addition to the hardware and software vendors that are targeting service providers and enterprises. Each company is given a ranking based on its potential to make a success of its SIP strategy and keep up the pace as the market develops.
The public companies scrutinized include:
8x8 Inc. (Nasdaq: EGHT....."

Comcast cautious about VoIP upgrade | CNET News.com

Comcast cautious about VoIP upgrade | CNET News.com: "While still just a trickle, early defectors to VoIP represent the vanguard in a trend that some analysts believe could soon roil the communications industry. Independent VoIP providers such as Vonage and 8x8 are beginning to steal consumers from traditional phone operators with flat-rate VoIP plans that cost between $20 and $40 a month for local and long-distance calls."

Monday, September 29, 2003

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Packet8 advertising on yahoo search

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Packet8 advertising on yahoo search: "Packet8 advertising on yahoo search
I just saw a Packet8 ad on the top of my yahoo search page, anyone else see this?"

Vonage, 8x8 at Center of VoIP Regulatory Debate

Vonage, 8x8 at Center of VoIP Regulatory Debate: "Vonage, 8x8 at Center of VoIP Regulatory Debate
By Josh Long
Posted on: 09/26/2003

Vonage Holdings Corp. and 8x8 Inc. are the subjects of a national debate on whether and how to regulate phone companies routing traffic over the Internet.
Vonage on Monday asked the FCC to declare that the company is not technically providing telephone service and therefore should be exempt from regulations the Minnesota Public Utilities Commission wants to impose. Vonage also has filed an appeal in a Minnesota district court, challenging a ruling that Vonage is a telephone company and must obtain a certificate to operate, file tariffs and comply with other requirements applying to in-state phone companies. "

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � What does everyone think of P8 and SipPhone news?

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � What does everyone think of P8 and SipPhone news?: "What does everyone think of P8 and SipPhone news?
What do you guys think of the partnership?

What about P8 and FWD being interop'd?"

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Packet 8

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Packet 8: "I have Packet8 now for 3 weeks, it was never down not even a minute, the quality in general is less than regular phone company but better than cell phone, it works great for USA and Canada calls, less quality for international calls, if you have DSL you will not be able to cancel your regular phone company but you can keep it min. if you have cable internet you will be able to cancel your regular phone company, they are cheaper because they try to gain ground in this hot VOIP market, don't listen to anyone , try it for yourself for a month, if you don't like cancel and get your money back, to start you need to pay the 1st month $19.95 + $30 startup fee, if you have recommendation code you can save $20, make sure you get a code to save on your startup fees."

Thursday, September 25, 2003

Slashdot | States Fight Internet Tax Ban, Cite VoIP Concern

Slashdot | States Fight Internet Tax Ban, Cite VoIP Concern: "PetiePooo writes 'From an article at PCWorld: The Multistate Tax Commission is fighting a bill which makes the moratorium on internet taxes permanent. Their complaint is that it could be interpreted to include VoIP telephony such as Packet8 and Vonage, and they would lose that lucrative tax base as people switch from incumbent providers. The House has already approved the bill. When will the politicians figure out that VoIP is a going to end up as a product, not a service? Voice will be just another form of data....' "

Tuesday, September 23, 2003

8X8 and SIPphone Announce Interoperability and Marketing Agreement

This is awesome for Packet8 and SIPphone users. Both companies seem to be really on the ball as far as what their users want.

8X8 and SIPphone Announce Interoperability and Marketing Agreement: "8X8 and SIPphone Announce Interoperability and Marketing Agreement
Monday September 22, 8:15 am ET
VON CONFERENCE, BOSTON, Sept. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- 8x8, Inc. (Nasdaq: EGHT - News) and SIPphone, Inc. today announced that an agreement has been reached to allow Packet8 users to call SIPphone users (and vice versa) over the internet without the need to terminate through the PSTN (Public Switched Telephone Network).
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As part of the agreement, Packet8 and SIPphone have agreed to grant access to the telephone numbers of their customers (without compromising the privacy of such information) and allow direct dialing to each others customers without the use of special codes or prefixes. From a practical perspective, this results in a benefit to the consumers of both services, as they will be able to call each other anywhere in the world, free of any additional charge. Also included in the agreement is a cooperative marketing arrangement, whereby SIPphone users who are interested in PSTN origination or termination services (i.e. the ability to call, or be called, by any regular plain old telephone) will be encouraged to sign up with the Packet8 service.
'We are very excited to announce this cooperation with SIPphone,' said Bryan Martin, Chief Executive Officer of 8x8. 'Michael Robertson's vision of a fundamental change in telephone communications based around the SIP protocol is directly in line with our own,' he continued. 'We look forward to quickly implementing this interoperability between our two services and we are confident this will be seen as a significant benefit to both companies' customers.'
'We're deploying thousands of SIPphones around the world and private peering with Packet8 will allow our users"

Monday, September 22, 2003

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Bridge Packet8 with another VOIP

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Bridge Packet8 with another VOIP: "Bridge Packet8 with another VOIP
Hi
I've got a Packet8 Connection and I've also used Creative Labs discontinued VOIP Product (PC 2 PC - VOIP Blaster). From what I've read about the DTA-310 its port is also FXS as is the Creative VOIP. So I was wondering if there is any simple way to bridge the 2 connections. If I simply connect the 2

VOIPBlaster -> VoipBlaster -> Packet8 -> PSTN (via Packet8)

How would I get the Packet8 to pick up on a ring? And dial out etc. "

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � New Reg fee confirmed

Seems like Vonage users are contesting the regulatory charge Vonage is levying.

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � New Reg fee confirmed: "I have disputed the charge and asked for Arbitration via Vonage's TOS. Some of the charges aka TAXES that ILECS and CLECS charge you are valid but there are MANY that you can dispute and not have to pay them. There are people that make BIG money analyzing your phone bill and get paid from fees they recover for you. Just because they say its a tax doesn't mean its a tax you have to pay. Phone companies have been notorious on passing on fees to the consumer when actually these are fees that the phone company must pay themselves as part of doing business. I would recommend everyone disputing the charges and asking for Arbitration and ask Vonage to provide you the Federal or State statue that requires you to pay this new fee. Every tax has a WRITTEN statue that explains why this fee exists. If they cannot provide the documentation to you then its a non existing statue that you do not need to pay. I have done this many a time and won most of the time so I am speaking from experience. God you cant imagine the type of fees they try to tack onto a T-1 line that just don't exist."

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » New Reg fee confirmed

more Vonage users complaining about the needless regulatory fee they are being charged

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » New Reg fee confirmed: "I called and asked them about the 'Free' fax line on my business account. It is, as you would expect, no longer free -- even though their website still advertises it as such.

There is no way, from the dashboard, to disable the FAX line. You have to call them up to do it.

Side note -- I think this recovery fee is complete BS. Simply put -- since Vonage is the 'end user' of each of the lines they get from their ILECs/CLECs they have been paying these fees all along. It could be said we have been paying them all along as part of our total monthly fee. (Exceptions to state sales tax in NJ -- don't know about the exise tax though).

I resent the fact that Vonage believes that we as a whole are naive enough to believe that we are getting a discount (or not in the case of business customers) but are now forced to pay the taxes that Vonage has been paying all along.

I would expect this from my politician, not Vonage."

Saturday, September 20, 2003

ebroadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Vonage lowers rates

Something doesn't seem to add up with Vonage's new regulatory fee

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Vonage lowers rates: "If I am not mistaken by law if Vonage collects any fees or taxes for USF for state or federal reasons don't they have to itemize and detail all those fees on the bill? Meaning they would have to state which fee/tax they are collecting and the exact amount charged for each. Check your POTS and Cell phone bills, you will see they are itemized and detailed. So how can Vonage just create a fee for 'Regulatory Recovery' if they are truly paying USF right now? I am suspect as to whether this fee they are charging is really going to pay for USF and other fees or taxes right now. Jester may be right, this fee may be covering Vonage's legal expenses.

I guess I just would have a fundamental issue if a company charged me a fee that they are really not paying. I don't mind them charging me if they were actually paying that fee, but if they are not then why in the world would they be billing people for it?

What if Vonage does in fact win it's legal battles? Then wouldn't they would have collected these fees and be able to keep them and Vonage customers would have paid these fees needlessly? Has anyone read about Vonage being forced to collect these fees yet? I mean they haven't done it so far, so why do it now if you aren't being forced to do it? Also, if Vonage is arguing in court that they don't have to collect these fees, then why are they charging customers for collection of these fees? I simply don't understand how they can argue in court that they don't have to collect and pay out these fees but then they are charging customers to collect these fees?

Another confusing thing about this is how they could charge a flat rate charge for this? The laws and fees and taxes vary greatly by state, county, and even town and my bills are based on"

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � New Reg fee confirmed

Looks like some posters on DSLReports think the Vonage regulatory fee is going to Vonage's bottom line and is being used to cover other costs.

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � New Reg fee confirmed: "I think the 1.50 is for covering the costs for something else. Only MN and WI have forced Vonage to operate in a manner for Vonage to charge any regulatory fee's.

Either they have realized they cannot win and a large majority of other states will fall in line with MN, or they are shifting the costs of something else onto consumers, very much like a traditional phone company.

If P8 and Voice pulse and voice glo do not charge this fee, the answer is clear."

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Vonage Lowers Base-Price

seems like the Vonage price decrease is actually costing people more

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Vonage Lowers Base-Price: "Lower Prices... net INCREASE for many!

Well... $1.00 decrease on 'local' lines plus the $1.50 'regulatory fee' still equals a 50 cent INCREASE, according to my calculator.

Better news on the residential unlimited plan... a net $3.50 decrease.

Sucks to be us business users though... a $3.00 INCREASE (for the main and fax lines).

Forgive me if I'm not celebrating in the streets or anything... my total Vonage bill just went UP $4.00/mo."

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Recent Vonage Quality

looks like Vonage's quality has been degrading recently.

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Recent Vonage Quality: "Recent Vonage Quality
I have had Vonage for over a year now, and have been pretty impressed with the quality, until a couple weeks ago.

Now, all my conversations through Vonage are very choppy and the quality is so bad, that I am resorting to using my regular phone instead of Vonage to make long distance calls."

Wednesday, September 17, 2003

Lawmaker aims to suspend VoIP regulation | CNET News.com

Lawmaker aims to suspend VoIP regulation | CNET News.com: "Lawmaker aims to suspend VoIP regulation
By Ben Charny
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
http://news.com.com/2100-7352-5077267.html

A Pennsylvania state senator wants a five-year, statewide moratorium on regulations and taxes aimed at companies selling voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) dialing.
VoIP is a new breed of cheaper phone service that lets people place calls through the Internet and avoid telephone companies' local and long-distance networks. Although there is a relatively small number of subscribers, analysts say Internet telephony is poised to threaten the long-standing dominance of major U.S. phone companies such as BellSouth, SBC Communications, Verizon Communications and Qwest Communications International.
A bill introduced this week by state Sen. Jake Corman could make Pennsylvania one of the first states to take a stance against regulating VoIP providers such as 8x8 or Vonage.

Corman spokesman Dan Houser said that forcing arduous reporting requirements or taxes on these young companies now could ultimately 'stifle innovation.'
'Those companies run into a mountain of legal work and expense that would take away from their research and development,' he said.
Recent moves by Minnesota and Wisconsin regulators indicate that those states believe VoIP service providers should be regulated and taxed. The nation's largest carriers also support regulation, arguing that without it, there would be more people dialing, but fewer taxes collected. States provide 911 and other telephone services and are dependent on those taxes to pay for such services.
Representatives for the nation's largest phone companies did not immediately return calls seeking comment."

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Packet8 Voicemail

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Packet8 Voicemail: "Packet8 Voicemail
I found out that you can dial 012-0555 to get to your voicemail box from your Packet8 phone. Could someone else help me with building a number listing for everything Packet8 related, so we can have them all in one place?

Voicemail 1.888.898.7887; 1.650.353.4400 or 012.0555 (DTA only)
Tech Support 1.888.898.8733; 1.408.687.4120 (DTA)

Other DTA numbers
012.0001 Your assigned PSTN number
012.0003 DTA's IP address"

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � DTA's IP address

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � DTA's IP address: "DTA's IP address
i know we can get my DTA ip address by dial 012.0003 but it only shows some basic information i really want to know how do Packet8 setup the DTA i mean where is my user name account information i think they have other ip address for the DTA which is for Packet8 internal use"

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � anyone using fax succsessfully with 8X8 ?

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � anyone using fax succsessfully with 8X8 ?: "Hi,
I am particularly interested in if anyone is using 8X8 for a fax line as they seem to have good rates.



My understanding is that Packet8 doesn't support faxing, although they are working on an upgrade that will.

I use �j2.com[?] for faxing. They give you your own phone number for about $12 per month. Incoming faxes are received by their server and arrive as message attachments in your mailbox. You either scan outgoing documents or 'print' them directly from an application to the fax driver, which sends them to the J2 server. There are other competing services. You can't use a fax machine, but having electronic copies of all faxes does make filing easy. And you can use OCR to convert incoming faxes to text."

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Packet8 Rocks!!!

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Packet8 Rocks!!!: "Packet8 Rocks!!!
I have had P8 for several weeks and have been very pleased wit the service. It works well with both outgoing and incoming calls. Also just a day or so ago I found my voicemail working as it supposed to, leaves notification,and retrieves right. Thanks Packet8...Danny"

Tuesday, September 16, 2003

Wisconsin enters VoIP fray | CNET News.com

Wisconsin enters VoIP fray | CNET News.com: "Wisconsin enters VoIP fray
By Jim Hu
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
http://news.com.com/2100-7352-5076852.html

Wisconsin regulators have informed Santa Clara, Calif.-based 8x8 that its Packet8 Internet voice-calling service is subject to the same rules as traditional phone companies, marking the second major move by a state against Internet-based phone operators.
The company said that the Wisconsin Public Service Commission (WPSC) informed it by letter last week that 8x8 cannot provide voice-calling services within Wisconsin without the commission's certification, and that Packet8's bills for all voice calls within the state are void.
Wisconsin's letter signals increasing regulatory scrutiny of Internet voice calling, and follows a similar warning issued to voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) provider Vonage in Minnesota last month. Michigan's Public Utilities Commission ordered that New Jersey-based company to immediately pay fees to support 911 service.

A representative for 8x8 said Wisconsin's interpretation of its Packet8 service goes beyond VoIP, with wide ramifications for Internet-based services in general.
The WPSC 'could potentially regulate e-mail because they don't distinguish between data communication and telephone communication,' Huw Rees, a spokesman for 8x8 said. 'It seems to be a lot of confusion to how and whether or not to regulate these types of services.'
Rees said 8x8 will respond to the WPSC within 30 days.
The decisions strike at the heart of an increasingly controversial question concerning VoIP services: Should phone calls that use the Internet rather than the traditional public telephone network be regulated as a telecommunications service or an Internet service?
Consumer VoIP services are still in the"

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Something Creepy about Voiceglo

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Something Creepy about Voiceglo: "Something Creepy about Voiceglo
I signed up for Voiceglo on August 23rd. It is now September 15th and I have not received a telephone. After weeks of silence and no replies to my emails I got a call from a lady Thursday informing me that a 916 number is now available, but I had signed up to transfer my existing phone number.

When I called in today the guy seemed confused and took a message for someone to call me. He was going to leave it on the other lady's desk (i.e. they don't have voicemail??)He thought the phone would ship 'by the end of the week.'

OK guys, by the time this phone shows up it will have been an entire month. You charged me a $13 monthly fee for absolutely no service. This was in addition to the $30 activiation fee, $10 prepaid service fee, and $11 shipping fee.

I don't have a good feeling about this. Has anybody actually gotten this service to work?"

Monday, September 15, 2003

Neowin.net - Where unprofessional journalism looks better - Skype: Why VoIP is music to Kazaa's ear

Neowin.net - Where unprofessional journalism looks better - Skype: Why VoIP is music to Kazaa's ear: "Kazaa co-founders Janus Friis and Niklas Zennstrom have a new target: the telephone industry.

They've launched Skype, which they claim is the first Internet phone service to use peer-to-peer software. In just its first week of availability, 60,000 people downloaded the free Skype software. Other voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) services, such as Vonage or Free World Dialup (FWD), needed several months to attract the same level of interest.

Just as they shook up the music industry by creating Kazaa, the pair now wants to rattle the cages of traditional telephone companies. In an interview with CNET News.com, Friis discussed the coming challenges for VoIP, what Skype actually means (nothing, as it turns out) and a possible regulatory backlash against VoIP providers, among other issues."

broadband � News � VoIP Regulation Heats Up - Wisconsin latest in regulatory push

broadband � News � VoIP Regulation Heats Up - Wisconsin latest in regulatory push: " VoIP Regulation Heats Up
Wisconsin latest in regulatory push
The quest to regulate VoIP continues, as this time Wisconsin informs 8x8 that their Packet8 service is operating without the consent of the Wisconsin Public Service Commission. The commission has alerted the company that not only must they receive certification to operate, but that Packet8 bills for intrastate services to Wisconsin customers are 'void and not collectible.' The state of Minessota recently informed Vonage that the company could not operate in that state without receiving authorization to engage in business as a telco; in turn adhering to all traditional telco guidelines. The trend is something Vonage co-founder Jeff Pulver has been predicting for some time, and the argument has frequently spilled over into our forums."

PSC says firm illegally operating in Wisconsin - 2003-09-15 - The Business Journal of Milwaukee

PSC says firm illegally operating in Wisconsin - 2003-09-15 - The Business Journal of Milwaukee: "PSC says firm illegally operating in Wisconsin
The Public Service Commission of Wisconsin has notified a California Internet communications company that the firm is illegally providing broadband telephone service in Wisconsin.

Santa Clara, Calif.-based 8x8 Inc. said in a statement late Friday that the PSC said it believes that the company, via its Packet8 voice and video communications service, is providing intrastate telecommunications services in Wisconsin without certification of the PSC.
In the letter, the PSC said that it believes that Packet8 bills issued for intrastate service to Wisconsin consumers are void and not collectible.
8x8 and its attorneys have contacted the PSC and are preparing a formal response, the firm said.
8x8 provides broadband telephone service, consumer videophones and other communications services and software."

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Packet8 Codecs and voice quality

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Packet8 Codecs and voice quality: "Packet8 Codecs and voice quality
Packet8 has 5 settings for voice codecs, G.723 comes as default but you can change it in the DTA web configuration page I changed mine to G.729 with 10ms Packetization and Silence Suppression on and the result was increased voice quality, I have DSL with Verizon and the G.729 is just perfect, I know that if I have to use dialup I should change it back to G.723."

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Vonage 911 routed to the wrong number

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Vonage 911 routed to the wrong number: "Vonage 911 routed to the wrong number
FYI,

you might want to check your 911 service...

I just tried to call (to report a noise problem) and ended up at a trooper station about 20 miles from me - not the correct one for my address. This should raise a couple of red flags...

Here is the email I sent to Vonage - I'll keep you in the loop on progress:


Subject: 911 service routed to the wrong number - important

I had to use the Vonage 911 service to file a noise complaint...

When I called the 911 from my xxx-xxx-xxxx line I was connected to the Hawthorne State Police Station.
That is unfortunately the completely wrong station!!!!

The correct station for my address on file for 911 with you is:
New York State Police
Memorial Drive
Krugers, NY (or Cortlandt Manor NY)
The direct number I have is: 914-737-7171 (This is the number I finally used to call and file my complaint)

Please correct this mistake for all my lines and send me a confirmation when the right number is linked up to the account.

Please also add a feature where customers can review the 911 number that you are mapping to avoid such an incident in a real emergency."

Though Vonage touts 911, they can't route calls to the right 911 PSAP, see post above. Not only does this delay emergency response but it also provides people with false security in thinking they have a working 911 service with Vonage.

Friday, September 12, 2003

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Wisconsin wants to regualte 8x8

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Wisconsin wants to regualte 8x8: "Wisconsin wants to regualte 8x8
Press Release Source: 8x8, Inc.

8x8 Announces Receipt of Notification From Public Service Commission Of Wisconsin Friday September 12, 5:32 pm ET

SANTA CLARA, Calif., Sept. 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- 8x8, Inc. (Nasdaq: EGHT - News) today announced that on September 11, 2003, it received a letter from the Public Service Commission (the 'Commission') of Wisconsin notifying the Company that the Commission believes that 8x8, via its Packet8 voice and video communications service, is offering intrastate telecommunications services in the state of Wisconsin without certification of the Commission.

According to the Commission's letter, it believes that 8x8 cannot legally provide Packet8-based resold intrastate services in Wisconsin without certification of the Commission. In addition, the Commission believes that Packet8 bills for intrastate services to Wisconsin customers are void and not collectible.

8x8 and its attorneys have contacted the Commission and are preparing a formal response."

Thursday, September 11, 2003

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � 8x8 (Packet8) to stay listed on NASDAQ

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � 8x8 (Packet8) to stay listed on NASDAQ: "8x8 (Packet8) to stay listed on NASDAQ
No delisting. I believe this has been a topic of conversation here.

They will remain listed on the NASDAQ per NASDAQ."

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Packet8 Voicemail Notification?

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Packet8 Voicemail Notification?: "Packet8 Voicemail Notification?
I have had P8 for several days and everything was working OK, except now I found that I am having voicemails being left but I am not getting Voicemail notification light on DTA 310? Can anyone say what that might be?
Thanks
Danny"

Tech News - CNET.com

Tech News - CNET.com: "Though he�s simultaneously ignoring one modern-day technological staple, Greenberg is among the biggest players trying to make a staple out voice over IP (VoIP), a new technology many believe will one day challenge, if not unseat, dominant telephone companies such as Verizon Communications and BellSouth."

8X8 to Remain Listed on Nasdaq Stock Market

8X8 to Remain Listed on Nasdaq Stock Market : "8x8, Inc.
(Nasdaq: EGHT) today announced that it received a letter from the Nasdaq
Listing Qualifications Panel determining that the Company has fully regained
compliance with the Nasdaq SmallCap Market's continued listing requirements.
In the letter dated September 10, 2003, the Panel based its conclusion
upon the fact that 8x8 has, for the past twelve (12) trading days, maintained
a closing bid price of $1.00 per share, as required by Marketplace Rule
4310(c)(4), as well as a $35,000,000 market value of listed securities, as set
forth in Marketplace Rule 4310(c)(2)(B). The Panel also noted that the
September 5, 2003 appointment of Mr. Donn Wilson to 8x8's Board of Directors
and Audit Committee appears to satisfy the independent directors and audit
committee composition requirements, so long as the Nasdaq Staff does not
subsequently determine that Mr. Wilson should not be considered independent
for purposes of Marketplace Rule 4200(a)(14). The Company is confident that
Mr. Wilson meets all Nasdaq criteria for director independence."

New Network Services

New Network Services: "AT&T Plans a Vonage-style Consumer VoIP Service
AT&T is currently testing a 'bring your own access' consumer VoIP service similar to the Vonage model, said David Dorman, AT&T Chairman and CEO, speaking at this week's Morgan Stanley Global Media & Communications Conference in Boston. Dorman sees great potential in such an AT&T branded, consumer VoIP service because of the 'many interesting voice features it could offer,' like 'pick your own area code,' 'phone number for life,' and the ability to reach the service from anywhere over the Internet. Internal testing of the hosted VoIP service is underway at AT&T. Dorman expects these trials will be expanded soon."

Wednesday, September 10, 2003

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Packet8 Caller ID problem fixed!

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Packet8 Caller ID problem fixed!: "Packet8 Caller ID problem fixed!
Just noticed today on a few incoming calls that the 1 is gone from my caller ID!

Instead of the normal 199-872-1234 I'm FINALLY getting the whole number! i.e. 998-721-2345"

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � My Packet8 Device Power Just Blinks

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � My Packet8 Device Power Just Blinks: "My Packet8 Device Power Just Blinks"

This post diagnoses what happens if your Packet8 DTA Power LED is blinking.

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � VoicePulse Caller ID

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � VoicePulse Caller ID: "When I get a call on my VoicePulse telephone, the telephone number of the person calling shows up on my caller ID display, but their name does not. Instead of their name I get two quotes (''). When that same person calls on my POTS line, I get both their number and name on my caller ID display. Is this the case for all VP users or just me?"

Looks like VoicePulse only offers name delivery with caller ID in NJ, PA, and DE area codes. That sucks for people who don't get those area codes. Would suggest VoicePulse customers take a look at Packet8.

Tech News - CNET.com

Tech News - CNET.com: "Vint Cerf hears VoIP calling
By Ben Charny
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
September 10, 2003, 4:00 AM PT

For someone widely regarded as the father of the Internet, Vint Cerf can be surprisingly coy about predicting the future. "

Tuesday, September 09, 2003

broadband » News » Regulatory Revolution - State VoIP regulatory debate continues

broadband » News » Regulatory Revolution - State VoIP regulatory debate continues: "Regulatory Revolution
State VoIP regulatory debate continues
Vint Cerf (one of the co-creators of the TCP/IP protocol) and other industry insiders chime in on the recent push to regulate VoIP providers with the same measuring stick used for telcos. The state of Minnesota recently ruled that Vonage could not operate in the state unless they adhere to traditional telco guidelines. Other states are working on plans to follow suit. The push has resulted in some interesting discussion in our VoIP forums over how/if VoIP providers should be regulated.

Business Week explores the regulatory hurdles facing VoIP providers on a state to state basis. According to Vint Cerf, one of the 'co-fathers' of the web, 'to single out VOIP as a telephone service is a terrible misunderstanding of the Internet industry. I would submit that, someday, the phrase Internet telephony will sound as archaic as 'horseless carriage' sounds today.' One former FCC official claims the VoIP debate is 'forcing us to finally confront the irrationality of the current system.'"

Time To Rewrite the Rules of Telecom

Time To Rewrite the Rules of Telecom: "Time To Rewrite the Rules of Telecom
By Jane Black
September 8, 2003
Vonage and a chorus of VoIP evangelists argue that the convoluted, often irrational, web of telecom regulations that have evolved over the last century threaten to kill a vibrant new technology and stifle greater efficiency and sorely needed investment in the ailing sector. "

Monday, September 08, 2003

Bell Canada hears VoIP calling | CNET News.com

Bell Canada hears VoIP calling | CNET News.com: "Bell Canada hears VoIP calling


By Ben Charny
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
September 8, 2003, 9:00 AM PT


Bell Canada, one of Canada's largest phone companies, is converting its telephone network into one based on the Internet Protocol, the company announced Monday.
The changes will let Bell Canada sell new commercial services such as video calling or sharing documents over a telephone line, to begin mid-2004, according to a statement from the carrier."

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » 1st Day -Packet8

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » 1st Day -Packet8: "1st Day -Packet8
Just installed my Packet8 service and it was up an running in less than 5 minutes, activation was swift and easy, really impressed so far. I had my sister call me after I called her and the incoming call was great, there was no echo and no lag whatsoever. I will keep everyone informed of updates...Good Job 8x8!!!
Danny
Carrabelle,FL"

New VoIP standard for videoconferencing | CNET News.com

New VoIP standard for videoconferencing | CNET News.com: "A United Nations-affiliated telecommunications group has ratified a new standard for videoconferencing using VoIP, or voice over IP, a technology that routes phone calls over the Internet. "

Sunday, September 07, 2003

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » September is VoIP Regulatory Month in the US

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » September is VoIP Regulatory Month in the US: "September 8th:
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ITAA Event - Information Technology Association of America
»www.itaa.org/events/event.cfm?EventID=..[?]

Innovation At the Edge: The battle over Voice over Internet Protocol in the States
- 2pm eastern, 11am pacific

Presenter - Jim Kohlenberger & Jeff Pulver

ITAA Contact - Mark Uncapher, muncapher@itaa.org

Register for the Webcast: »www.itaa.org/events/register.cfm?Event..[?]

'Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) is curretly undergoing growing state regulatory scrutiny.'

This webcast will cover these developments and their potential impact on consumers with two VoIP experts:

Jim Kohlenberger is a former White House Senior Domestic Policy Advisor and specialist on telecom policy.

Jeff Pulver, President and CEO of pulver.com, Inc.

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September 9th:
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Cato Institute Event - Will Internet Telephony Bring About a Revolution in Telecom Policy?
11:00 am EST

Register for the Cato event:
»www.cato.org/events/030909pf.html[?]

Featuring: J. Scott Marcus, Federal Communications Commission; Link Hoewing, Verizon; Brad Ramsay, National Association of Regulatory Utility Commissioners; Marilyn Cade, AT&T; and Jeff Pulver, Pulver.com.

The Cato Institute
1000 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20001

'Many Internet engineers and technologists have long dreamed about a day when voice over Internet protocol (VoIP) service, or “Internet telephony,” would supplement if not totally supplant, traditional analog, circuit-swit"

Friday, September 05, 2003

Light Reading - Networking the Telecom Industry

Light Reading - Networking the Telecom Industry: "Volo VOIPs Up Cable

ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. -- Caerus, Inc., the inventors of the ‘free softswitch’ service offering, the first softswitch and the first SS7 Media Gateway, announced today that its Communications Service Provider subsidiary, Volo Communications, Inc.,will begin a trial immediately to offer consumer and business customers in Florida unlimited calling with popular enhanced features, high speed Internet access, VPN services, and other advanced voice and data services via the local cable access network. The full suite of new products includes:
Unlimited residential local and long distance voice over IP (VoIP) services and enhanced calling features - all for a flat rate of $25 per month
High-Speed Cable Internet Access
Corporate and Residential Video Streaming Services
Virtual Private Networks - for telecommuting employees and remote offices
Storage and Data Recovery Service
Unlike other similar VoIP service offerings that traverse the public Internet, these services are offered over Volo Communications’ private IP backbone network, which is fully optimized for the highest quality business applications, offering MPLS services between switches over one national backbone network rather than 1,000s of Internet subnetworks.
'The Caerus mission is all about empowering service providers and customers of all types to finally reap the inherent benefits of packet communications technologies,' said Shawn Lewis, President & CEO of Caerus, Inc. 'Cable companies, ISPs and other service providers can offer these services to their customers through our Volo Communications subsidiary without having to go to the expense of upfront investments, costly pre-certifications, and lengthy systems integrations.'
'T"

Thursday, September 04, 2003

New Net phone service off to bumpy start | CNET News.com

New Net phone service off to bumpy start | CNET News.com: "New Net phone service off to bumpy start


By Ben Charny
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
September 2, 2003, 5:39 PM PT


It's been a rough start for Skype, a free voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) service recently launched by a team that includes co-creators of Kazaa.
Skype's free software for making phone calls using a broadband connection became available on its Web site Friday. There have been 'some service disruptions today due to unanticipated network growth during beta,' Skype warned on Tuesday in a message. The message said the company hopes to have the problems fixed in 24 hours.
Skype representatives were not immediately available for comment.

Skype is a new service for making unlimited free phone calls using VoIP, which places calls using the Internet rather than the privately owned telephone networks. It joins a cluster of relatively new companies such as Free World Dial-Up (FWD), a free VoIP service that recently said it has signed up more than 50,000 users, and major Instant Message companies that now let users make VoIP calls.
On its Web site, Skype claims that unlike rivals, its software works with most security-enhancing firewalls and network address translation setups. Skype also sells headsets and a telephone handset to plug into personal computers for between $13 and $28.
FWD spokesman Daniel Berninger said that Skype can only be used through a computer, while FWD and others transform a household phone into a VoIP dialer. But Berninger said Skype does have one thing most of the young VoIP industry doesn't: star power.
Former Kazaa heavyweights that have signed onto Skype include Chief Executive Niklas Zennstrom, co-creator of the Kazaa software, and Ahti Heinla, Skype's chief architect and one of Kaz"

Cable Datacom News

Cable Datacom News: "Time Warner Preps For VoIP Rollouts In NC And NY This Fall
MSO Leads IP Telephony Charge With Plans To Launch Service In Three Markets
SEPTEMBER 01, 2003
By Alan Breznick, Editor, Cable Datacom News
North Carolinians like to brag that the sky over their state is shaded Carolina blue. But when Time Warner Cable officials look at the state from afar, they see a different color--green.
Time Warner has targeted North Carolina as one of the first three states where it will offer voice-over-Internet-Protocol (VoIP) service over its broadband cable lines. Fresh from its initial launch of IP telephony in Portland, Maine in the spring, Time Warner plans to introduce VoIP in two mid-sized North Carolina metro areas this fall, possibly followed by another two markets shortly after that.
Besides the two North Carolina cities, Time Warner also intends to unleash VoIP commercially this fall in Rochester, N.Y., one of its two test markets for the service. But, after ruling out metro areas in Ohio and Texas for early IP telephony launches, the MSO seems largely focused on the Tar Heel State. 'We'll do Rochester and the two North Carolina markets this year, nothing in Ohio,' a company spokesman said. "

More info on SIPhone - An Internet Extension to Your Telephone Twin

An Internet Extension to Your Telephone Twin: "An Internet Extension to Your Telephone Twin
By GLENN FLEISHMAN


arly adopters are sometimes frustrated by their friends' lack of interest in the latest digital toy. The makers of the SIPphone, an Internet telephone, have an answer for that problem: the device is available only in pairs.
Two SIPphones, which carry voice calls over the Internet, cost $130. Where a standard telephone has a jack for a phone line, the SIPphone has one for wired Ethernet.
Attach the phone to a high-speed Internet connection anywhere in the world, and the phone registers itself with a central directory and lets you dial any other SIPphone user. It makes no difference what Internet connection the phone uses; it can be moved at will from one to another. But SIPphone users can only call other SIPphone users, United States toll-free numbers and Internet telephone users who have registered with Free World Dialup (www.pulver.com/fwd/index.html), Iptel.org (www.iptel.org) or IAXtel (www.iaxtel.com). Hence the pair of phones.
The SIPphone is not unique in offering so-called Voice Over Internet Protocol services with hardware, but it is the least expensive and has the hardware and Ethernet connection built into the phone itself. 'SIPphones are like early fax machines: not a lot of value unless you've got two of them, one for the person you want to communicate with,' said Michael Robertson, SIPphone's founder.
SIPphones are assigned virtual phone numbers beginning with 747 and followed by seven digits. But the phones cannot be reached from outside the Internet. The phones can be purchased from SIPphone's Web site (www.sipphone.com). Custom phone numbers are avail"

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Big Packet8 Upgrade

broadband � Forums � Voice over IP � Big Packet8 Upgrade: "Big Packet8 Upgrade
Can anyone fill me in on the big software upgrade that Packet8 underwent this weekend?? I know about the caller ID and that works well but I was having some serious issues (dropped calls mainly) yesterday and the day before. It appears to be much better today. So any other changes than caller id? Thanks in advance."

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Flashing Your Packet8 Firmware...

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Flashing Your Packet8 Firmware...: "Just got my DTA from Packet 8 yeserday and noticed
the firmware was version 1.0

Has anyone attempted to download any new versions
of the firmware assuming there is a one?

Here's how to do the download in case you didn't
see the post:

* DTA310 Upgrade Procedure
Overview:
To upgrade your DTA310 with new firmware, you will use the
DTA310's built in web pages to specify the upgrade file name
and location. To access the DTA310’s web pages, you will
need to know the IP address of your DTA310. In many cases,
your home gateway/router has automatically assigned an IP
address to your DTA310, so it has a record of this
information. Otherwise, your DTA310’s IP address can be
obtained by following the below procedure.
Get the IP address of your DTA310:
1. Pick up the telephone handset connected to your DTA310.
2. Dial the Packet8 'MyIP' server: 012-0003.
3. This service will read the IP address of your DTA to you.
Save this information in a convenient place.
Upgrading the DTA310:
4. Open a web browser (from a machine on the same network
as the DTA310).
5. Enter the IP address of the DTA310 in the web browser
(from above).
6. Click 'download'.
7. In the 'tftp server ip:' field enter 4.42.235.170.
8. In the 'filename' field enter 'current'.
9. Click 'Start TFTP Download'.
10. Once complete, reset the DTA310 by clicking on
'Reset Main Application'.
After completing these steps you may close the web
browser.
Your DTA310 has now been successfully upgraded
and is ready for normal operation."

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Packet8 on the way...Can I turn off Verizon PSTN?

broadband » Forums » Voice over IP » Packet8 on the way...Can I turn off Verizon PSTN?

Depending on who your DSL provider is, you may not be able to disconnect your POTS/PSTN provider in lieu of Packet8 as you may require telephone service to also hve DSL service if your DSL and PSTN/POTS providers are one and the same.

Wednesday, September 03, 2003

Packet8 Presentation

Video and Voice over IP Communciations: A SIP-based example

This is a presentation from Barry Andrews from 8x8 which is the parent company of Packet8, Centile, and Netergy Microelectronics. The presentation provides a good introductory overview of how SIP is used for VoIP and some of the issues around SIP. Highly recommend taking a look to better understand how Packet8 provides VoIP services.

VoIP is Ready! - A comparison of Broadband Phone Services

VoIP is Ready! - A comparison of Broadband Phone Services

This web site has a great side by side comparison of Packet8, VoicePulse, and Vonage.

Tuesday, September 02, 2003

The VOIP Forums - Packet8 User Forum

The VOIP Forums - Packet8 User Forum

Another forum about Packet8